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Allaboutjazz.com Interview
Franck Amsallem
Waits for His Time
2003
By Eric J. Iannelli
:: The liner notes to
Franck Amsallem's newest record say it all. Summer Times
is the French pianist's excursion into a more
commercial, more accessible sound. Full stop. End of
story.
Of
course you could finish there, but you wouldn't want to.
Amsallem has a lot to say at this point in his career. For
him it's a time of significant changes – beginnings and
endings, upheaval and settling. He's 42 years old. He's
recently remarried. It's not long since he emigrated back
to Paris after a sixteen year stint in New York City. His
back catalogue is either officially out of print or
desperately hard to find. And in a bid to win a wider
audience, he's finally taken his friends' advice and
recorded an album featuring only three of his own
compositions.
Issued
on Sunnyside Records in the US (where, in an egregious
proofreading mistake, Amsallem's first name was spelled
incorrectly on the spine and cover, an oversight for which
Sunnyside head François Zalacain was deeply
apologetic) and the Nocturne label in France, Summer Times
is analogous to an enormous multicolor flag being waved at
the gallery of jazz critics, listeners and record
companies.
But
was the musical departure really as deliberate as the
liner notes make it out to be? “Absolutely,” affirms
Amsallem from his home in Paris. “When you record
standards, people have a good way of knowing where you
are. My playing on stage is a lot more demonstrative, a
lot more outreaching, more powerful than it is on this
record. But I wanted to make a record that would be easier
to listen to than my usual forays into long
improvisation.”
For
most jazz musicians, standards are simply a matter of
course. For Amsallem, however, recording familiar material
written by other people was a big step in another
direction. He is a prolific and resolutely forward-looking
composer, counting among his oeuvre “Nuits” for string
orchestra as well as commissions for France's Orchestre
National de Jazz, The PRISM Saxophone Quartet with Tim
Ries and the Manhattan New Music Project. “Generally I'm
known as a composer of tunes – not only tunes, but large
charts: big band, orchestral – and I feature my own
compositions, but people have had a way of telling me, in
a way, that it's difficult for a record to feature all
your own original compositions. A lot of people like to
have a standard as a reference. I've played standards all
my life, so I wanted to show that I can do that.” His
vehicles for this demonstration of ability are three
Gershwi standards (”Summertime,” “The Man I Love” and “I
Got Rhythm”) alongside two others, one by Albert Hague
(”Young and Foolish”) and the other by Harry Warren
(”You're My Everything”). His emphasis is entirely on
reinterpreting traditional jazz without straying into the
realm of the avant-garde.
”The
classics can be played with respect but with an
advancement of the tradition. All the great musicians that
I respect and play with have that thing. Jean-Michel Pilc
plays in a very outspoken fashion. But this time I wanted
to make more of a classic album. I'm 42 now and I’ve only
done six records, which is not many. Each recording has
been a statement, and I wanted to make a statement. Even
the originals are very much in that [”classicist”] vein,”
he explains, referring to his own Summer Times charts,
“Tom's Tune,” “Laila” and “Bud Will Be Back Shortly.”
“It's not executed in an outrageous way.”
”The
challenge is to make something that's familiar, yet
something you want to listen to again, which is a very
fine line between what we know and the unexpected, and
music in general can be seen in that way.” Amsallem
recants slightly on this last statement, though this might
be for the benefit of those who don’t want to think of
music being lumped into one of two broad categories. He
also shrugs off the idea of philosophizing too heavily.
”Philosophizing
may
be a big word. I have a varied background, meaning I have
a classical music background, though I'm not what you
would call a classical pianist. I do have a good knowledge
of 20th century composers. I also have played pop music –
with Harry Belafonte, for example – and R&B.” He files
the last two genres under “simple music,” in that the
number of chord changes is kept to a minimum and they are
not as complex as one might find in the jazz and classical
idioms. “Each music has its different requirements. And
the difficult thing is to be able to like each music for
what it is. In my case, for the past few years I've been
doubting what kind of effect avant-garde music can have on
most listeners. In other words, I've grown toward more
accessible music to listen to, because I find that
sometimes I think I'm daring, avant-garde, but don't
deliver the promise, and I have been wanting to make a
simpler statement. But when you make simple music, people
think of it as easy. Simple is not easy. If simple were
easy, then everyone could do it.”
Despite
this
paradoxical challenge of the simple, Amsallem himself has
never seen a need to stick with the simple for long.
Instead he has tried to take his music further down the
road of the complex and intricate, developing some strong
professional ties with likeminded musicians along the way.
Among this coterie is saxophonist Tim Ries, a man Amsallem
considers a sort of musical soul mate.
”He's
a great composer. He's an extremely highly respected
musician on the New York scene. We arrived at the same
time, played in the same bands, shared the same rehearsal
space. To be honest, it's more like… Tim and I, when we
play together, I never think twice about what I’m doing.
It's like he can read my mind and I can read his mind.
It's absolutely effortless. We don't talk much about
music. It happens on the bandstand; everything is said
musically.” Ries, he says, is that rarest of finds in the
jazz world – that is, “you on a different instrument” –
and together they have collaborated on a number of albums:
Is That So?, Regards, Years Gone By and On Second Thought,
not to mention Amsallem's work with The PRISM Saxophone
Quartet. But for Summer Times, Amsallem used Ries' hectic
schedule (he was on a world tour with the Rolling Stones)
as a good reason to try something outside of the
partnership.
”It's
totally
done on purpose,” he explains. “I think playing with Tim
has been an extraordinary experience, but sharing the
bandstand with someone is not always the best for your
personal career. People assume that I'm a quartet player;
but I'm an equally good trio player.” For his studio trio,
Amsallem recruited bassist Johannes Weidenmuller and
drummer Joe Chambers.
”The
nice thing about trio is that it's self-contained, but you
can orient the music to where you want it. I think playing
the trio is the ultimate art of the pianist, and it's
where the pianist wants to be. It tells more than solo
because you have the dialogue with other people but you're
still the centre of attention.” He quickly qualifies that
with: “I like to get the drummer and bass player very much
involved, unlike some other people who have their trio
mates as slaves. I like to play trio sharing.”
”He's
probably
one of my favorite bass players,” he says of Weidenmuller.
“He's not well recorded but he's incredible: rhythm and
superb intonation. And he knows better than better-known
bass players how to play with a pianist. He knows how to
play the right notes harmonically.” The same kind of
casual association that brought Weidenmuller to his
attention some time ago (he appeared on Amsallem's 2001
live record, On Second Thought) also led to Chambers'
involvement. “We did some tours in 2002. I really admire
his playing: his cymbal sound, his brushwork. Joe's
playing is very subdued, so it helped me achieve a more
relaxed way of playing than I usually have. He's also
someone who's taken part in some major records in jazz,
and it's nice to have a link with that.”
The
careful reader might intuit from that statement that
Chambers' name may be as beneficial as his talent when it
comes to turning heads in Amsallem's direction. That may
not be so far from the truth. Amsallem is far from
thrilled about the state of his back catalogue. He falls
into a sort of trance as he lists his albums – many
released within the past decade – that are now out of
print or commercially unavailable. “Regards, Another Time,
On Second Thought…”
”You
know, the record business is not having a good time right
now. The first album was issued in 1992, and it did quite
well to establish me. It was licensed to a Japanese
company that went bankrupt, then it was licensed to a
French company, OMD, and that went bankrupt, and then
Challenge Records, and the license expired a year ago. A
lot of the Sunnyside catalogue is almost impossible to
find outside of the States; a lot of the Challenge
catalogue is difficult to find outside of Holland. It's a
situation for records that aren't blockbusters.” He
doesn't anticipate an impending change for the better,
either. “I think the Internet will make things available
more easily than they used to be,” he says, though his
voice lacks conviction.
”It's
difficult
to know if you're doing the right thing when you go for a
company. The lesson I learned is that it's good to keep
the rights to all of your records, because, God knows,
when someone is enthusiastic about the music and wants to
do something, I can license the rights to him. I own the
masters to five out of six of these records. It's just a
matter of time before I find a producer willing to
re-release them, and it's always easier when your current
record is doing well.”
”I left New York two years ago and it was
incredible timing. It was right after 9/11, and when
it happened I thought I wouldn't be able to leave,” he
says, noting that his return to France had been in the
pipeline for some time. “I was leaving with a mixed
bag of feelings over how incredibly difficult it had
become.” There were fewer and fewer gigs in New York
City. The freelance jazz scene and the economy –
especially the music industry side of it – were drying
up. “I've been back about six times now, but when I
left New York, I just had my little daughter, I just
got married again, and I was looking for a musical
statement. All of that came together at the same
time.” For these reasons it's tempting to think of
Summer Times as a real landmark in Amsallem’s career,
a definitive break with the past two decades and five
albums, and a calculated attempt to attract critical
and popular attention (which, suffice it to say, seems
so far to be working). The pianist himself is less
bold in his opinion. “Well, I'm not sure if it's a
landmark. It's something I wanted to do to show people
I can do this. It's going to help me to get a little
more interest from record companies. It doesn't mean
I’m going to do this all the time. I'm going to play
standards to find a twist, a new way of playing.”
Amsallem
is
equally cool when discussing his own reaction to the new
release. He sidesteps the usual ecstatic,
self-congratulatory vocabulary, such as “very excited” or
“best yet,” that many artists use to describe their recent
effort. “I wouldn’t say Summer Times is my best record,”
he says. “It's where I am now. My first CD was at least
equally as good, but people didn't really take notice.
Sometimes you have to wait for your time.”
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